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Totally sick of seeing this story... While I have my front page spot, I should do something sweet with it. Umm... Any ideas? Actually, don't post any comments! That will only make this stay here longer... No comments!

Avatar david *
08-30-08 17:14
Ross Is. Br.
Just as a comment on my post: I see this as a scandal, but I am not sure that it should be. If true, it shows dishonesty for sure, but who doesn't love a mother who would go so out of her way for her daughter's integrity? Of course, cynics could argue she was doing it in part to protect her own image as a wholesome woman with good family values. A pregnant 16 year old child would not bode well for her stance on abstinence only education.
Avatar unfathomablej
08-30-08 17:32
scholar of China
I think the scandal should be related to her naming of her kids. Trig? Bristol? Seriously, that would get the snot beaten out of you in elementary school (but not in Middle School or High School, where the bullies would be dumb enough to believe they could have a chance with your MILF of a mother)
Avatar unfathomablej
08-30-08 17:46
scholar of China
To be serious though, it does smack of cover up. I've never heard of any mother who actively pursued taking an 8 hour flight when she knew there was a chance for premature birth.
Avatar unfathomablej
08-30-08 17:52
scholar of China
Oh, and Kelly just had an interesting theory: Sarah Palin went on the flight because she wanted the baby to die of complications. She secretly didn't want a baby, but she couldn 't get an abortion.

Wouldn't that be completely twisted?
Avatar david *
08-30-08 17:57
Ross Is. Br.
Sure, sure, I thought of that too. The evangelical's abortion, much like catholic suicide.
Avatar david *
08-30-08 18:14
Ross Is. Br.
Perhaps far more important is that she could become our nation's first VPILF.
Avatar unfathomablej
08-30-08 18:37
scholar of China
What about James Madison? Wasn't he a girl or something?
Avatar unfathomablej
08-30-08 18:37
scholar of China
...but he wasn't VP, dang.
Avatar blahblahblah
08-31-08 10:16
She was never He
Creepy. Never heard this. Sounds like conspiracy fun time!
Avatar david *
08-31-08 11:47
Ross Is. Br.
Some counterevidence: http://www.polartrec.com/node/3944

A blog post of a woman who ran into Palin at the airport and remarks that she was pregnant.
Avatar catchfishwithhan
08-31-08 14:12
A Day In The Life
she is pretty cute for an old person, i'd shag her
Avatar unfathomablej
08-31-08 15:00
scholar of China
re: counterevidence

She doesn't say how she knew she was pregnant. Could have been told or found this out later.
Avatar david *
08-31-08 17:56
Ross Is. Br.
Evidence: Holy shit, check out the photo I added in the edit for comparison!
Avatar catchfishwithhan
08-31-08 19:41
A Day In The Life
This sounds exactly like this one random episode of some soap opera i watched over the summer while being bored out of my mind.oh waitttt nooo! this is like the thing on desperate house wives! my friend watches it... anywho like the red haired chick's daughter gets preggers so she send her away to a nun place before the neighborhood finds out, and pretends to be pregnant. sounds like we have a little of that going on right infront of our eyes.
Avatar max *
08-31-08 23:40
cyber desperado
Movin' water wif a bucket? That's palin'.
Avatar nick
09-01-08 00:49
Hell yes.
Wow. Is it wrong for me to hope that this sinks the McCain campaign?
Avatar max *
09-01-08 01:05
cyber desperado
Nope, not only is it not wrong it's REASONABLE (to think Palin will be the nailin that campaign's coffer).
Avatar darkavenger
09-01-08 08:59
she thinks it, i say
so check out this story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080901/pl_nm/usa_politics_palin_dc

sorry i am too dumb to make it a link, but that caught me way off guard! and i was just getting excited about your conspiracy theory!
Avatar blahblahblah
09-01-08 09:13
She was never He
Her Daughter is pregnant!
Out of Wedlock!
Underage!

I love this shit.
Avatar max *
09-01-08 09:47
cyber desperado
Pregnant out of wedlock again, I hope one of the other daughters gets knocked up too just to pitch a bitch in the works.
Avatar paul *
09-01-08 10:21
no, seriously...
daily kos has another article up on this: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/31/145838/319/386/581332

granted it's daily kos so it should be taken with a grain of salt...
Avatar unfathomablej
09-01-08 10:47
scholar of China
The impact of this rumor isn't simply in the fact that she deceived people about her personal life. That seems to be a fairly natural consequence of politics. Instead, it's symbolic of one of the hardest pills to swallow for most pro-life advocates: that supporting pro-life causes and safe sex are not mutually destructive beliefs, and instead the most tenable position for pro-lifers.

It seems as though the best way to strengthen these sorts of wedge issues (see: intelligent design) is to secularize it; indeed, you don't need to be super religious to buy into the ideology that abortion is murder, you just gotta believe that all forms of human life (provably sentient or questionably so) is worth preserving. But if you couple this with policies of abstinence-only education, those which have been pretty conclusively proven to be utterly worthless, you alienate those secular believers.

I think this is the flashpoint that Sarah Palin is trying to avoid at this point, not the startling fact that her daughter is a teenage mother. After all, there are plenty of teenage mothers out there -- it isn't too dangerous to try to appeal to them.
Avatar david *
09-01-08 11:10
Ross Is. Br.
At least partly true: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/palin.daughter/index.html
Avatar max *
09-01-08 11:20
cyber desperado
I don't want to mistaken some conventionalist asshole, BUT, is it not neglectful to forego raising your trisomie'd child in favor of a most certainly ill-fated political campaign? Is this not the ultimate in parental selfishness?

Perhaps I'm discrediting Mr. Palin unduly, but are we to assume he would give up his career and life to care for their child through the duration of any theoretical McCain/Palin administration? Is it not the common sense of the conservative camp that a child should be raised by a mother and a father? It is true, then, that the selection of Palin as a VP candidate is fundamentally anathema to any version of "Family Values" ever presented by the republican party.

Never before (to my knowledge) has a candidate with a child so young been selected, let alone a child who requires special care. And surely, any child deserves better than to be embroiled in the inevitable clusterfuck and necrosodomy of a republican presidential campaign.
Avatar xxrockislostxx
09-01-08 16:18
i smell cute!
I'm pretty much still in "wow" mode on this whole circus. Max just made some really wonderful points. As a pro-homeschooling mom, how will Palin be able to either take that role on herself, or transfer that to her husband while she is in office, and still show any kind of positive "proof" of the benefits of homeschooling. Also, is her daughter a product of abstinence - only sex education? If so, is that not shooting one's self in the foot? Not to mention this whole, "they [Bristol and child's father] have chosen to do the right thing and get married" thing. Isn't she 17? Hrm, that seems like a winning idea. Besides, wasn't the "right thing to do" not to get pregnant in the first place? This would all be so much more eye opening if they weren't a financially secure family that could show the hardships that come with unexpected pregnancy (at any age, healthy baby or not) aside from political coverage (or backlash or whatever). Like I said, I'm still in wow mode.
Avatar xxrockislostxx
09-01-08 16:19
i smell cute!
Also, I can't imagine being any one of her children, but most of all a teenager, with all of this media scrutiny. Just adds to the selfishness claim on behalf of Mrs. Palin, imho.
Avatar david *
09-01-08 16:51
Ross Is. Br.
Sure, sure, but just to defend her I want to point out that it isn't fair to blame my parents for my mistakes. I think I had excellent parents and some of my siblings turned out great and others had a lot of problems growing up. Also, how many of us can honestly say we haven't been one stroke of bad luck away from being in the same situation as her daughter?

I really do feel bad for bringing this whole situation out and putting it on the front page here. I have been doing lots of research into the governor and I have uncovered lots of dirt, but in the end I would say that everything I've come across either did not affect my opinion of her or actually made me like her a little more (even the scandals).
Avatar sara *
09-03-08 09:58
Have some tea.
COMMENT COMMENT COMMENT!! MUAHA!
Avatar catchfishwithhan
09-03-08 19:05
A Day In The Life
oh ok
Avatar xxrockislostxx
09-05-08 19:02
i smell cute!
I agree that Palin's children, themselves, are not reflections of her or her husband. I was trying to address all of the issues that pertained to Palin and that politically speaking just shows a lot of inconsistency in some ways and also clarifies positions that she has that I happen to oppose (spin zone, sorry). I can't imagine what this is all like for her family. I don't mean to attack her family or children, like I said, from a publicity stand point, her decisions affect the issues she's running on. I was still looking at this from the "is it not neglectful to forego raising your trisomie'd child in favor of a most certainly ill-fated political campaign? Is this not the ultimate in parental selfishness?" way, as Max put it. Not from Bristol's, or anyone else's point of view and also didn't think it would get so blown out of proportion for so long. Geeze, media, there are about a hundred other, BETTER, actual political decisions that she has made, that don't involve her private life, that should be occupying tv time. I didn't mean to imply that her ability to parent was in question or that her kids turned out any certain way because of her parenting. I think her family is probably a lot more "normal" than all of this attention is making things up to be. We've all got family "secrets" (some more than others). And if they sat down as a family before she accepted the VP nom and agreed that the publicity they would get if any of those "got out" would be worth running, then there is no big deal here and can we finally move on PLEASE?!
Avatar mreberto
09-06-08 11:40
Celebrity Chef
Bump????
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